“After reviewing the party’s proposal and individually discussing this idea with state and local leaders and elections experts, we do not believe that this is a realistic option at this time and remain opposed to a mail-in ballot election or any new primary election in Florida of any kind,” read a statement released Thursday afternoon by the state’s Democratic congressional delegation.
Under the state party’s plan, fund-raising and public comment would begin immediately. The plan would be “inclusive of all Democratic voters,” according to a memo accompanying the draft plan that was sent Wednesday night to party leaders, including Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, the party’s candidates for the presidential nomination. Any plan would need the blessings of the DNC and the Clinton and Obama campaigns. “We really believe that all Floridians deserve to be heard,” said state party Chairwoman Karen Thurman, but “if this is not what the people of Florida and our presidential candidates want, then we’re not going to do it.” The proposal could prove problematic because Florida law bans the state from conducting elections by mail.
Obama said Thursday that the notion of counting the January results “just defies logic” because he didn’t campaign in either state and his name wasn’t on the ballot in Michigan. “I think you could ask my 6-year-old whether that was fair, and she would probably be able to say, ‘No, that isn’t,’ ” he said. End Quote
Your six year old would be a little biased. She is Your child. If Hillary had a 6 year old, she would probably say that it was fair. But that matters not at all.
You weren’t on the Ballot In Michigan because you Chose not to be On the Ballot. If Hillary was there, you could have been as well. It doesn’t matter why you weren’t, you weren’t there, and it was your own doing, of your own free will.
Clinton didn’t Campaign in either of these states either. And she won. That’s why you don’t want to count the January results, because it would mean that mistakes you made earlier in your campaign, like not putting your name on the ballot in Michigan, would come home to roost, and because you lost in Florida. Fair and square I might add.
The Bigger problem here is that there is still no answer to the Problem of Howard Dean and The Democratic National Convention not letting Florida and Michigan be seated. Do these two states Not count? Are the United States Of America again Only 48 states, like it was prior to 1959? Have we let Michigan and Florida secede from the Union? NO! But it is like that to The nutjobs over at the DNC, and because they are pig headed and Unwilling to make any concessions to these two states, the DNC Is going to alienate MILLIONS of Voters, in the Middle of one the ugliest campaigns in recent History, Mind you the ugliness is thanks to Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton, but still, must you make things Worse? Further fracturing an already fractured party?
I cannot help but continue to blast this amazingly wrong headed decision, early on, to not meet these states half way. Why could not the DNC have come to some agreement with the states in question? Why can’t they now? Is it because they would lose face? Is it because they don’t want to admit that the decision of the State Legislatures of these states is valid? Why was it such a big deal to the DNC, and the RNC for that matter, that they moved up their primaries?These states made decisions in their own best self interest, for their state and it’s people, which I would presume comes before any political parties within said state. If they admitted the obvious validity of these decisons, then they would have to find a way to seat these delegates, and that would be bad, right? Giving voice to milions of Voters would clearly be wrong, correct? That’s what it seems to me these idiots are saying.
Giving voice to these now voiceless people in these two great states should be The PRIME Objective of the DNC. No Money you save now by not helping them get back into The Convention will get you the votes back that you lose when the voters in these important swing states vote Republican because you are IGNORING THERE ONLY NEED TO MEET YOUR OWN. Your need, to be in control over these proceeding and making sure that things are done your way, is the wrong way, in my view. And the sole need of these two states, as far as you are Concerned, Mr. Dean, is seating at the Democratic National Convention. If you help them get into the Convention Now, Mr. Dean, you will assure that Millions of Voters in these two states will be more likely to vote for Your Candidate in November. If you Fail at this, Mr. Dean, you will assure that Millions of Disenfranchised Voters in these two states May very well Vote for the Other Party because of your Pig headedness.
Seat them, Mr. Dean. I have said before it will probably take a court Injunction to get them seated, and I hope that I was wrong with that. I hope that cooler heads can prevail.
But I doubt it.
Today’s Nugget,Via Wikisourse:
THIS, sir, is the language of democracy–that a majority of the community have a right to alter government when found to be oppressive. But how different is the genius of your new Constitution from this! How different from the sentiments of freemen that a contemptible minority can prevent the good of the majority! If, then, gentlemen standing on this ground are come to that point, that they are willing to bind themselves and their posterity to be oppressed, I am amazed and inexpressibly astonished. If this be the opinion of the majority, I must submit; but to me, sir, it appears perilous and destructive. I can not help thinking so. Perhaps it may be the result of my age. These may be feelings natural to a man of my years, when the American spirit has left him, and his mental powers, like the members of the body, are decayed. If, sir, amendments are left to the twentieth, or tenth part of the people of America, your liberty is gone for ever. Patrick Henry, June 5th 1788