Fun with Socialism: A video to start things off.
I do not believe that government is evil. The belief that the democrats, trying to use spending to fix the problems created by years of
inefficiency within the system, and damage done by the system to America is somehow socialist is to me a bit silly. I have in past given a simple proof of the incorrectness of this viewpoint. I will do it again. Textbook definition of socialism, followed by the actual plan of the president, to show simply and definitively that the two concepts simply do not mesh. He may be many things, but socialist is not one of them. The Definition courtesy of dictionary.com
Socialism: a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
Now, let’s take a look at what the president is doing. He is spending money. More than any president before him. That is not socialism, that is spending money to try to get the economy revived. There is no attempt in any way to vest control or ownership of anything whatsoever in the community as a whole by doing this.
Let’s look to see if we can see any attempt here at creating or using socialism or socialist tendencies. To do that we need to have the document at our disposal. To read the entirety of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, click here.
If you go through the document with an eye for detail you will notice a few things. Any money, ANY MONEY AT ALL, given to any government entity, regardless of what that entity is, is answerable to the people, meaning that reports must be submitted and given publicly, where anyone can peruse them and find out what has been done with it, and must follow the laws of this nation. Is there an element of control there? Absolutely, as it should be. The government is after all giving funds away for very specific reasons, and we want to make sure it is spent in such a way as we can see exactly what it being spent where. But it is not used to control or vest anything within the government, it is used to help America and Americans outside the government. Egalitarian? Yes. Socialist? Not so much.
Example: There are reports given every 45 days in the case of the secretary of the army using funds for the army corp of engineers (pgs 20-23). Those reports must be made public and are given in such a way as we can make sure we know exactly where our money is going, in this particular case, flood control and building levies and the like. No vesting ownership and control in the community as a whole in any way shape or form. The government controls the flow of money to aid citizens for their direct benefit, but there is no attempt to control the distribution of land here. Capital? Yes, but that capital is being used not to vest ownership and control, but to assist those who do have ownership and control of the land, I.E., the people who live there.
This is just a small example of the type of spending within the bill and the way funds within it are allocated. Another example follows.
The Department of Education. “Education for the disadvantaged.” (pg.67-70)You may dislike in general spending money, and specifically dislike this money going to this specific place,but there is nothing socialist here. No attempt to control anything by the government here, it gives money to help poor people get a decent education. No attempt to control social organization through use of funding. It does not say any specific course must be taught. That is up to the education system that gets the money itself, the local municipality, not the feds.
Even if there is federal statute involved.
You may dislike this bill. You may hate this President. You may think liberals are evil. You may think it irresponsible to spend like this. You may think this president is going to destroy America. You may dislike the fact there are people in this nation that think this type of spending is necessary, but there is one thing you cannot say. That there are any socialist tendencies here. There just aren’t, either in this bill or in this administration. The reason i used this bill as an example is because this bill, I think, exemplifies the type of administration this President brings to America, and as such is representative of his ideas and ideals.
And if this isn’t Socialist, and it isn’t, you simply cannot call him a socialist and have the charge stick. Egalitarian? Yes. Socialist? Not so much. A Video with Milton Friedman, talking to Phil Donahue in 1982, about capitalism. He makes a point which I think our president would entirely agree, that capitalism is good.
That’s it for me. Catch ya later.
Today’s nuggets, via wikiquote: As for me, I am deeply a democrat; this is why I am in no way a socialist. Democracy and socialism cannot go together. You can’t have it both ways… socialism is a new form of slavery. Alexis De Tocqueville
It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages. Nobody but a beggar chooses to depend chiefly upon the benevolence of his fellow citizens. Adam Smith
hypocrite for finding two trillion dollars to cut out of the budget, when he signed a bill that spends 787 billion dollars. Yeah, because jump starting the economy when the entire crux of the move is to JUMP START THE ECONOMY is somehow hypocritical. Yes i know he was going in a different direction then that, but It does not matter, The move was designed to help the economy, not Tom DeLay and his texas billionaire buddies. He still seems to think that cutting taxes to the point of starving the government so his friends can make money by the shovel full regardless of the effect on the economy is a good thing.
Wow. That seems very optimistic. If this is the stress test, it would, to my mind be a mess to use this, due to extreme and undue optimism of viewpoint not borne out by current trends. Most people’s projections up to this point have been badly off. No one, at the beginning of last year, thought we would be where we are now. No one thought the market would be near 7,000. Most projections I saw from that point saw a DJIA nearer to 11 or 12 thousand for end of 2008. No one thought unemployment would be over 7%. No one thought we would see a run on money market accounts to the tune of ½ trillion dollars in one day last September.
Republican party in looking for waste and fraud. Please, Darrell, we Dems have been there just as long, if not a great deal longer than you Republicans. But, the serious stupid really starts at around the 3:45 mark of the video. Issa here blames Nancy Pelosi for calling for a conference decision before a conference. Stupid on it’s face, maybe he meant she knew she was going to get what she wanted because she had a majority going in. He also says the President didn’t reach out from the beginning just before making that statement. Patently false. And just an aside here, he does that annoying thing that Republicans do when referring to the DemocratIC party, being subtly demeaning by not using the name of the party properly, namely calling us the Democrat party. Yer missing the last 2 letters there, buddy. Two can play that game, Darr.
I don’t even want to talk about that asshole Shelby. But I will, in general terms, and I will lump in Sen. Jim Bunning here as well. These two republic party players are really pushing their luck here. Shelby has again brought questions that have been answered about the presidents Citizenship to the fore, by mentioning them, despite the fact that the authenticity of said document has already been..um… documented. Sen. Bunning is perhaps the most heartless bastard in the senate for the crap he spouted about Supreme court justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg. He said there will be a new Conservative justice in real soon because Justice Ginsberg has “Cancer. Bad Cancer… the kind you don’t get better from.” 

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